Just a poke
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I still enjoy this LP even now after 40 +++ years.Listen to it when you have time in a quiet moment.Listen all the instruments and the change of rhythm.Wonderful.
Willy
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This has to be one of the most awesome albums I have ever heard, and I've been listening to rock music for more than 40 years! Excellent solos throughout, and even a cover of the Doors "Soft Parade" hidden in there. I guarantee you'll love it !!
Sweet Smoke is often thrown in the Krautrock bunch, when in reality, they were American. The band came from New York City, but they moved to Germany. The band consisted of lead guitarist/vocalist Marvin Kaminowitz, rhythm guitarist/vocalist Steve Rosenstein, bassist Andy Dershin, drummer Jay Dorfman, and saxist/flutist Michael Paris. These guys were Jewish, just like the J. Geils Band (minus J. Geils himself), the Blues Project, about half of KISS (Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley), the Shulman brothers of Gentle Giant, and so on. This group was basically a psychedelic group with jazzy overtones, influenced by the West Coast scene, but there are some touches that makes them not just another American band. Just a Poke, originally released in 1970 on EMI/Columbia (if I'm not mistakened, the album also received a French and Dutch release), is their first album. The album only consisted of two side-length cuts. The track listenings are a bit messed up, as it's commonly believed the album starts with "Baby Night" and ends with "Silly Sally", when in fact, it's the other way around. I own the original LP, which the back cover states that side one was "Silly Sally" and "Baby Night" was side two, although to confuse matters, the record label states the opposite. The back cover of the LP is correct. "Silly Sally" starts off almost medieval-sounding, complete with recorder. It starts off pretty mellow, with vocals, from Marvin Kaminowitz. Eventually the music picks up, and goes in to an extended guitar jam, before going in to an uncredited cover of the Doors' "Soft Parade", before going back to a variation of the opening theme. "Silly Sally" has a bit of a more bluesy feel, where they put a bit more emphasis on rhythm. The band then turns to an In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida like drum solo, then they go in to percussion overdrive. So, while Sweet Smoke is often thrown in the Krautrock bunch, there is really nothing musically in common to say Can, Ash Ra Tempel, Amon Düül II, early Tangerine Dream, Neu, Faust, etc. But this is still a nice gem of jazzy psychedelia worth having!
Sweet Smoke
Sweet Smoke were a 1960's and 70's psychedelic jazz-rock band. They incorporated many different influences, such as jazz, funk and island rhythms. They were originally formed in Brooklyn, New York in 1967, although the band moved to live as a commune in Germany before the decade was out. They have a fan presence on the internet to this day.
Personnel
Line-up 1970 (Just A Poke)
- Andrew Dershin – bass guitar
- Michael Paris – tenor saxophone, alto recorder, vocals, percussion
- Jay Dorfman – percussion and drums
- Marvin Kaminovitz – lead guitar, vocals
- Steve Rosenstein – rhythm guitar, vocals
Line-up 1973 (Darkness to Light)
- Andrew Dershin – bass guitar
- Jay Dorfman – percussion and drums
- Marvin Kaminovitz – lead guitar, vocals
- Michael Paris – tenor saxophone, alto recorder, vocals, percussion
- Jeffrey Dershin - piano, percussion, vocals
- Rochus Kuhn - violin, cello
Line-up 1974 (Live)
- Andrew Dershin – bass guitar
- Jay Dorfman – percussion and drums
- Marvin Kaminovitz – lead guitar, vocals
- Rick Greenberg - rhythm guitar, sitar
- John Classi - percussion, sound effects
- Martin Rosenberg - tambourra, percussion
Albums
Sweet Smoke
American prog-rock band
who played in Europe in the early 70s
Photo from back cover of 'Just A Poke' album.
Introduction
My name is Brian Currin and I live in Cape Town, South Africa. I first heard the album 'Just A Poke' sometime in the late 70s and fell in love with its progressive, well-produced and experimental sound. After years of fruitless search for the CD or any more info on this obscure band, I eventually found both (and much, much more) thanks to the Internet and the band members themselves!
Since putting up this page in October 1997, I have received e-mail from Andy Dershin, Mike Paris, Jay Dorfman and Rick Greenburg, all ex-members, who have been very generous in supplying more information and answering my questions.
I have also received many e-mails from Sweet Smoke fans around the world, who have helped with info for this webpage.
Bulgarian fan: Sweet Smoke is totally unfamiliar in Bulgaria. Year after year I tried to gather some news about the group but my efforts were fruitless. I didn't even know that the members of the band are still alive, because once a friend of mine told me they had died in a helicopter crash in the early 70s...
Thanks God this is not true!
So, perhaps, you could imagine my great joy and excitement which I am trying to share with you...
For a first time I heard the album "Just a Poke" in 1986 when I was 17 - in a cold winter morning I found a lost old record dropped by someone in the street ... I took it home and played it at my record-player - I found the music really great and magical and up to now this album is one of my favourite!!!
-- Zornitza "Ronny" Harizanova, Bulgaria, July 2001
Hi Brian, I found your Sweet Smoke site when doing a search for the band. I lived with them in late '69 and early '70 in Emmerich - actually the village of Huthum. Steve Rosenstein was a good friend of mine at college and he gave me the address of the band when I went to Europe. Steve wasn't in the band yet - Victor Sacco was the lead guitar - very fast, chilly style - excellent musician though. Steve had a brilliant, very warm musical sense - been trained in classical violin, could turn anything into a beautiful, melodic piece. He played fiddle with some very good Irish bands in the mid-70s in Boston. The crew was very much like the main web pages say they were - we had a lot of fun, everyone was very close and supportive, and the music - which I had nothing to do with other than as a listener - was great. I remember that winter the Rhine was in the basement of the house a lot, and every morning we ate oatmeal with cinnamon and delicious fresh milk we'd get from the manor house a few hundred yards up the path. The Kuhn family - the father, who was a fairly renowned sculptor, mother, and a number of kids included Rochus and his brother and two girls, one of whom married Jay later on - I don't think they're still together. But the relationship with the Kuhns was very close and it was a great family - they had Afghans, one of which, Rita I believe, was the only dog to ever bite me - she was nursing at the time.
They all were great musicians - Mike's solos, of course, would drive the crowd wild - fantastic on the recorder. When I went back to NY, I brought Steve the message that they wanted him in and Victor out - he was astonished and left that summer, I believe, or perhaps sooner, to join the band. It's strange to read that none of them made a profession of music because there was a lot of experimental energy and imagination coursing through the instruments. With all their Brooklyn accents, they thought my Bronx accent hysterical and thought no one else could speak that way till my sister visited them in the summer of 1970. Last I saw of them was in the mid-70s - ran into Marvin when he was at Berklee, Mike came up to visit, Steve was around Boston, etc., but haven't seen any of them since. However, a friend of mine about 6 years younger than me had a childhood friend visiting her last year, and both of them remembered Sweet Smoke quite well. So as you can see, your web site has stirred up some memories and it is much appreciated, because you are keeping a bit of history alive.
Best wishes, Barton Kunstler, November 2002
For more detailed info on the band and their history and reviews of the albums, visit Thibault Ducray's excellent Unofficial Sweet Smoke Web page which is half in French and half in English. Well worth a visit.
Where are they now?
Rick Greenberg: My name has changed a few times since 1974 when 'Sweet Smoke Live' was released. I was Rick Greenberg then. I just wanted to let you know I've enjoyed seeing your web-tribute to the band. I played some gigs with Sweet Smoke in early 1970, a few years before I joined the group full-time. I was studying music in London and traveled to Holland and Germany for concerts. My first exposure to a Sweet Smoke stage forever transformed my take on music - driving rhythms with sweet exciting solos soaring, and all with a trademark chaotic mix of humor and heart.
Throughout all the years the band lived in Europe, Sweet Smoke was a loving family of musicians and friends on a spiritual search for a state of musical expression where the ego lets go and the imagination plays with joy and spontaneity. That energy erupted on and off the stage (" . . . a vision of heaven in our hearts and the devil at our feet . . .” - Just a Poke). We had many names for it, "Light,” "Baba Nam Kevalam," even "Baloo," but the names were only passing thoughts, like sweet smoke itself, you take it all in, you let it all out and in a moment of creation the music gives you freedom and ecstacy.
Sweet Smoke lives on. At the reunion last summer, the same energy from the early Seventies immediately manifested and kept us joking, storytelling, laughing and playing music, and like smoke from a wizard's fire, the atmosphere was filled with magic.
-- Rick Rasa, April 2000
Jay Dorfman: I was the founding member and drummer of the band through all three recordings, this weekend we had a 30 year reunion where all members of the band regrouped, I have lots of rare orginal photos available and would like to make them available for the site... and yes feel free to post my e-mail on your site...
-- Jay Dorfman, Unherd Of Productions, 9th August 1999
Andy Dershin: I left Europe in '73 and returned to the US and I went to Berklee college of music in Boston. There I studied jazz and improvisation. I continued playing music up till 1980. At that point I got tired of not being able to play the creative style of music I had been accustomed to. In reality I also found it hard to earn a living. So I went into the crazy world of business. I still play but just for enjoyment of it. In the States if your not playing what's hot and popular, it's very hard to earn any money. But I have done OK in business and life is great. The other guys in the band have mostly done the same.
Jay is in the video production field.
Mike is a heavy computer programmer.
Steve is now a lawyer and lives in Los Angeles, but I'd hate to be one of his clients.
Marvin still plays but mostly just for weddings and such. He also sells advertising for cable TV.
Marty is a programmer and works with Mike.
John is a manager of a retail store.
So as life has gone on we still miss each other and the great music we created.
-- Andy Dershin, February 1998
Discography
Just A Poke
Darkness To Light
Live
Just A Poke
(Click on image for full cover scan)
- Baby Night (Sweet Smoke) (16:24)
- Silly Sally (Sweet Smoke) (16:22)
Released:
1970 (LP) Germany
1970 (LP) Italy
1996 (CD) Holland
2000 (CD) Germany
2000 (CD) Germany (with 'Darkness To Light')
Label: EMI Electrola
Catalogue numbers:
1C 064-28 886 (LP)
1C 244-28 886 (MC)
V.5001 (Italian LP)
CDP 538-7 48871 2 (CD)
7243 5 22641 2 4 (CD with 'Darkness To Light')
Musicians:
Andrew Dershin: Bass
Jay Dorfman: Drums and percussion
Marvin Kaminowitz: Solo guitar, Vocals
Michael Paris: Tenor sax, alto recorder, vocals, percussion
Steve Rosenstein: Rhythm guitar, vocals
Sweet Smoke responsible for all manner of percussion
Rosie Schmitz and Winfred Ebert: Producers
Conrad Plank and Klaus Lohmer: Engineers
Cover art: Jan Fijnheer
Italian album cover scans supplied by Gigi from Italy, June 2005.
Reviews:
Taken off the German Amazon website.
Sweet, sweet, sweet: First bought this as an album in 73-74 while in Germany as a GI. We all loved it then and now since I've turned-on my friends here in the States they all love it. I know of 2 others that have ordered it through Amazon since I got it on disc a couple months ago through Amazon. This album will bring you up when down, mellow you when needed and thoroughly blow your mind. Full of surprises and fantastic solos. Sweet, sweet, sweet; thank you for making this available Amazon!
-- Richard M Huff from Iowa, USA
Awesome: This has to be one of the most awesome albums I have ever heard, and I've been listening to rock music for more than 40 years! Excellent solos throughout, and even a cover of the Doors 'Soft Parade' hidden in there. I guarantee you'll love it!! --
A Music Fan from USA
Darkness To Light
(Click on image for full fold-out cover scan)
- Just An Empty Dream (4:20)
- I'd Rather Burn Than Disappear (4:15)
- Kundalini (13:25)
- Believe Me My Friends (4:29)
- Show Me The Way To The War (5:30)
- Darkness To Light (12:51)
Released:
1973 (LP) Germany
1997 (CD) Germany
2000 (CD) Germany
2000 (CD) Germany (with 'Just A Poke')
Labels: EMI Electrola (Harvest) (LP, MC & CD) / OSA (CD)
Catalogue numbers:
1C 062-29 471 (LP)
1C 244-29 471 (MC)
941041 TSP (OSA - CD)
8326802 (EMI Harvest Rarities - CD)
7243 5 22641 2 4 (CD with 'Just A Poke')
Musicians:
Michael Paris: Sax, Flute, Vocal
Marvin Kaminowitz: Guitar, Vocal
Steve Rosenstein: Guitar, Vocals
Rochus Kuhn: Violin, Cello
Jeffrey Dershin: Piano, Percussion, Vocals
Andrew Dershin: Bass
Jay Dorfman: Drums
Inside of CD cover
Live
| | |
1974 original album | 1997 CD re-issue | 2000 CD re-issue |
- First Jam (Sweet Smoke) (19:15)
- Shadout Mapes (Rick Greenberg) /
Ocean Of Fears (Marvin Kaminowitz) (18:02)
Bonus tracks on 2000 CD re-issue:
- People Are Hard
- Schyler's Song
- Final Jam
Released:
1974 (LP) Germany
1997 (CD) Holland
2000 (CD) Germany with bonus tracks
Labels: EMI Electrola (Harvest) (LP & MC) / Disky (CD)
Catalogue numbers:
1C 038 15755701 (LP)
1C 244-29 513 (MC)
DC 869952 (CD)
7243 5 22683 2 0 (CD with bonus tracks)
Musicians:
Rick Greenberg: Rhythm guitar, Sitar
Marvin Kaminowitz: Lead guitar, vocals, percussion
John Classi: Percussion, sound effects
Andrew Dershin: Bass guitar, percussion
Jay Dorfman: Drums, percussion
Martin Rosenberg: Tamboura, percussion
John Möring: Producer
Wolfgang Thierbach: Engineer
Heidi Janik: Cover photo
Recorded live in Berlin, Musikhochschule, 1974, for the benefit of Ananda Marga Yoga Society.
Shadout Mapes was a character in Frank Herbert's classic sci-fi novel "Dune".
Sweet Smoke in Southern Germany, 1974.
Photo supplied by Rick Rasa, September 2000.
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29 April 2000:
My name is Valérie and I'm very fond of Sweet Smoke music. I have great news for you (if you don't already know it!). The live album contained only three pieces of music of the Berlin concert in 1974. But now the complete version has just been released and it has been available in Europe since March. The background of the cover is the cover of the original live album, and there is a caricature of the musicians.
-- Valérie de Clerck
18 April 2000:
My contacts at EMI tell me that a new release of 'Sweet Smoke Live' with previously unreleased cuts will soon be available on CD.
-- Rick Rasa (Greenburg)
February 2000:
All CDs of Sweet Smoke are available again via
Amazon Germany.
Search for "Sweet Smoke" and you will find all you need.
-- Rudolf Techert
Links
The Unofficial Sweet Smoke Web page
Thibault Ducray's excellent website which is half in French and half in English. Well worth a visit.
ProgRock Archives This extensive website includes some cool Sweet Smoke album reviews.
Vagabond's World
My general rock music trivia site
Send any comments to: Brian Currin
Graphics from Diana's Free Graphics website which seems to have disappeared.
This website is part of the
South African Rock Encyclopedia .
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